I was honoured and humbled to interview New York Times investigative journalist and best-selling author Leslie Kean this past week. She is a verified titan in the field of Ufology and co-authored the now famous 2017 New York Times article “Glowing Aurus and ‘Black Money’:The Pentagon’s Secret UFO Program.”
That article kicked off the modern disclosure movement which resulted in the shocking admission by the US Government that not only do Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs or historically UFOs) actually exist, but elements inside the Department of Defense have been studying them for decades.
The admission amounted to a complete vindication of Leslie’s work. She ventured into the UFO field when in 2000, after investigating and writing about Burma for several years, she received the first English translation of The Cometa Report in the mail.
The Cometa Report was a landmark report made by high-ranking French Military and Civilian Personnel. After intense analysis, the report said it was most likely the “extraterrestrial thesis.”
“I just recognised it as a really big story,” Leslie recounts. “I thought I had a really big scoop. Can you imagine if the same level of US people made that claim? It would make front-page news around the world. So I spent a few months looking into the topic, since I didn’t know much about it, and eventually pitched the story to lots of editors I had worked with before. I had published a whole bunch of stories on Burma so they knew me and liked my work. It was really hard! I didn’t even use the word UFO when I made the pitch but they just couldn’t handle it, except for this one editor at the Boston Globe. She really respected me and was willing to do the story but it was really touch and go. At one point she said ‘forget it! Let’s cancel it.’”
Luckily, the Boston Globe editor had no one above her to say no and Leslie’s first UFO story was published finally in May 2000, titled “UFO theorists gain support abroad, but repression at home.”
Hooked on the topic
“Once that story came out I was so hooked on this topic!” Leslie said.
“I was shocked at how little response it got. It got a huge response from the UFO people but I expected Congress to jump on the story. I thought the leading investigative journalists of the time would have been all over it. I was just a freelancer, I didn’t have the kind of access they had. I was waiting for someone else to take the next step and nobody did anything. It was sort of my wake-up call for how bizarre it was. The way this topic was treated, everybody just acted like UFOs didn’t exist.”
Without a doubt, Leslie’s work helped bring about change. I found her through her landmark book from 2010, “UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials go on the record.” That book was the culmination of 10 years in the field. It has 18 contributing authors including four generals and a former US Governor, all relating their own personal UFO experiences. It is a must-read book for anyone interested in the topic.
Although the book was an international bestseller and made a big impact in the UFO world, editors would still not touch the subject.
Radical change
Fast forward to May 2021 and the landscape was completely changed.
“Do you remember the media frenzy that took place right before the June report came out last summer?” Leslie asked. “I mean everybody was covering this. And then it was on 60 Minutes. The New Yorker wrote a huge feature story on it. It was like the media couldn't get enough.
When you think back to what I had to go through to get this one story published, it’s a radical change. It’s all because the government has come around and acknowledged that UFOs are real. It’s official.”
Leslie also had a hand in that. After grinding behind the scenes in an underappreciated and disbelieved topic for 17 years, she was invited by Christopher Mellon to meet with Lue Elizondo the day he resigned.
“He was the head of a Department of Defense program that had been studying UFOs for a decade, and no one knew about it,” Leslie said.
Leslie went to a meeting in Washington and sat right across the table from Lue, Christopher Mellon, Hal Puthoff, and colleagues for over 3 hours. They showed her document after document including the famous three Navy videos.
“They showed me Lue’s resignation letter to General Mattis and I just couldn’t believe what it was saying.”
By resigning, Lue gave up his military pension earned after 22 years.
The letter explained to the Secretary of Defense at the time that “despite overwhelming evidence at both the unclassified and classified levels, certain individuals in the Department remain staunchly opposed to further research…There remains a vital need to ascertain capability and intent of these phenomena for the benefit of the armed forces and the nation.”
The idea of the meeting was to take this story to The New York Times.
“Lue was resigning because he needed attention on the subject and he wasn’t getting it from inside the department. That was the key moment for Chris, after covering this thing for 17 years, it was like ‘Oh my God,' I couldn’t believe I was sitting at that meeting hearing what I was hearing. They had all the documentation, everyone was going on the record, they had videos.”
The rest is history thanks in large part to Leslie’s work on the subject. The US Government finally admitted in the 25 June Preliminary Report that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, otherwise known as UFOs, are real.
Standby for part 2 of the interview in next week’s edition or watch the full interview below
Interview with Leslie Kean - UAPs, Writing the NY Times article, how the landscape has changed
Chris Lehto, ex-F-16 pilot, and YouTuber, combines aviation expertise and passion for the unexplained to investigate UAPs. He founded the UAP Society, funding decentralised research into alien existence using NFTs.
The fact that no one was interested was probably because cetain people knew more than they were letting on !!
By Karen from UK on 14 Jan 2022, 21:14
I agree with karen, Although people think the government is trying to control this... john at the black vault recently won a case to receive all of the document released, including parts the military wished to withold due to "national security". Way to go John!
By Richard J Scales from USA on 14 Jan 2022, 22:28
Section 1683 of the U.S. National Defense Authorisation Act 2021 legislates the creation of new office which will undertake the rational scientific and psychological study of the phenomena commonly described as UFO. This will be primarily from the viewpoint of national security which may be threatened by supposed foreign power . Most probably the eventual outome will be negative . Mass hallucination of a credulous public has been inspired by many Hollywood style interpretations of dubious data. The intention of achieving huge profits from gullibility is fairly obvious.
Roberto Cavaleiro from the unidentified land of Other
By Cavaleiro R. from Other on 15 Jan 2022, 12:01
If you know anything about the military industrial complex, this should be an absolute red flag that this disemination of information is not authentic, and is classic misinformation espionage 101. The refusal by journalists to interview actual people's who worked inside the industry who have 100 times the information as Kean is astonishing. The media is not even touching on any of the factual information by real whistle blowers. This is an agenda to stuff the pockets of the aerospace industry with a false campaign threat narrative.
By Jordan from USA on 15 Jan 2022, 21:49
With billions of high resolution camera smartphones in use,why have we not seen any clear photographs of UFO's or Aliens??????
Answers on a postcard.
Where are the Aliens????
By James from Algarve on 16 Jan 2022, 11:58
More American rubbish bla bla bla
By J from Lisbon on 16 Jan 2022, 12:30
At an emergency meeting held yesterday at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe , Alien general URA1 reviewed the AI report sent by the recent planet earth patrol vehicle 6996-XYZ and decided to reduce colonialisation possibility rating to 0.01% due to the approaching complete breakdown of sub-life, anti-gravity and change of climate.
Gremlin Knight from the alien land of Other
By Cavaleiro R. from Other on 17 Jan 2022, 13:03
Yes there are many unidentified aerial phenomena that exists but it doesn't mean people should to jump to any conclusion they blindly want to believe (that the unknown are therefore aliens). Many instances of claims were fraud and many were simple artifacts of various forms of optical illusions or Cognitive biases/memory errors. There has been a lot of time for someone to eventually provide some great evidence.
Who knows, perhaps technologically advanced beings have successfully travelled across light years to get here and only play with certain military covert ops and some occasional farmers, but I think the probabilities are highly low for the instances of the claims I'm aware of to be true aliens instead of human misunderstanding, fraud, or error.
By Earl from Lisbon on 17 Jan 2022, 14:58